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right there. have a nice weekend. >> bye, everybody. bill: a fox news alert. kathleen sebelius is expected to make some kind of statement within the hour. the president says he's sorry he guaranteed anyone who liked their healthcare plan could keep it but critics say that.not go far enough. martha: good morning. i'm martha maccallum. last night president obama said he should have explained that memorable promise a little bit better and more effectively. >> i regret have much that what i intended to do where people would be moving into better plans because they want them rather than because they were forced into it. i'm sorry they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me. bill: there it is for now and what about it? jonas, good morning to you. did he go far enough? >> i don't think so. that sounded like the most passive-aggressive apology we have heard from a president in a while. bill: you say the was too cute, using a passive voice. >> he said we could have been more clear. that implies they were clear about something and they were honest a
on assurances they got from me. >> during the interview, the president defended hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. >> i think kathleen sebelius, under difficult circumstances over the last four and a half years has done a great job in setting up the insurance markets so there is a good product out there for people to get. kathleen sebelius doesn't write code. she wasn't the i.t. person. the buck stops with me. i'm the president. this is my team. if it's not working, it's my job to get it fixed. >> julianna, what does the white house think of the apology? what were they trying to do here? >> the fact you heard sorry come out of the president's mouth recognizes, means they recognize they have a problem on their hands. between the website, the controversy over people's coverage getting canceled, it's opened the door. it's to legitimize having the credibility. >> they consider it a big deal. we heard people close to them for a long time saying they feel like if they ever admit the mistake, then the door. >> it's a big deal they said sorry. itis what the sorry is about. the sorry is not for what he sa
and there was no clear definition of success. health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius and white house chief technology officer todd park were among those briefed about the website and april 4. april 5 at the eisenhower executive office building, a meeting was held inside the white house. two weeks after sebelius was briefed she tried the reassure congress. >> we have the federal house on track and on time. we are moving ahead with marketplaces we'll be individually responsible for and we are working closely with our partners on their timetables for their marketplace. our energy and resources are focused on getting it up and running. we are monitoring the contracts an step of the way. >> reporter: white house officials acknowledge there were red flags raised along the way. but nobody imagined the size and scope of the problem. bill: that takes us to the hearings. what can we expect? >>> reporter: there are be tough questions and security and questions for henry chow about the vast majority of people will be able to sign up for obamacare on the website by the end of the month. they are going
. a better way to save. ally bank. your money needs an ally. . >> kathleen sebelius was talking more on the failed health care roll out. in the concession speech, he repeatedly hammered it. >> this race goes down to the wire because of obama care. that message will go out across america tonight. this administration told us that virginians could keep their health insurance and their doctors and their costs wouldn't rise under obama care. that was not true. they knew it wasn't true. we were lied to by our own government in its effort to restrict our liberties. >> joined now with the report and also a fellow university of chicago institute. the editor of the report and a contributing writer for roll call. amy, give me more first take on what you learned yesterday that tells you something about 2013. >> the electorate in virginia mirrored the electorate in 2012 in terms of dem kbrf graphics. the president won by four points and auliffe by points. when you turn outlooks similar to the way it looked in a presidential election, that's good for democrats. i think the health care message will
of the month. that would be the headline except a new problem seems to have come up as kathleen sebelius returned to capitol hill for yet another grilling, this time a security risk to users. breanna keeler is following developments, live at the white house this morning. >> reporter: it was another damaging appearance on the hill for hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. as president obama headed to the lone star state, that's right, but not a coincidence that he was in texas where a republican governor has blocked the expansion of medicaid under the obama care law. >> it is wonderful to see all of you. >> reporter: texas, not exactly friendly territory for obama care. but that's where president obama went to criticize republican opposition to his signature health care reform program. and promised its faulty website will soon be up and running. >> we are working overtime to get this fixed. and the website is already better than it was at the beginning of october. and by the end of this month we anticipate it is going to be working the way it is supposed to. >> reporter: back in the hot seat a
of town, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius handles the fight on capitol hill. the administration is doing more damage control as reports from obama care contracts indicate even more problems with the october roamout than previously thought. we're going to monitor this hearing. and we'll bring you news as a it warrants. sebelius is sure to face blit terring criticisms, though, in that hearing. not only over the website debacle, but also over the false assurances that people could keep their insurance plans if they wanted to. you may remember this exchange from her last appearance on capitol hill. >> some people like to drive a ford and some people like to drink out of a red solo cup, not out of a chris it will stem. you're taking away their choice. >> and that was marsha blackburn. and she's joins us this morning. good morning. >> good morning. >> you didn't minnesota words with her. now i think americans want solutions. listen to what your fellow republican, chris christie had to say. >> i think that the party has got to focus on winning again. you know, somet
services officials are there. days later kathleen sebelius says we're right on track to rolling out flawlessly october 1. are we to assume there was such a culture of intimidation or no drama within the white house that no one has had the courage or the responsibility enough to prime the president and say i just saw a presentation. this fall is going to be scary on the rollout? >> what is curious about that is kathleen sebelius was in the meeting. she was there. marilyn tavenner who runs c.m.s., they were there. they heard. one of the things mackenzie said was if your website is not working, the call centers can't get the stuff into the system. we found that out the hard way. they also said there is no single person in charge. this is a giant bureaucracy. you need a project manager. but the federal government said we can handle it. they couldn't. meanwhile it gets even worse. according to -- so that was that. they knew. they knew going back. how many times do we hear the president and his surrogates say if you like your plan, you can keep it? they have known for years that tens of m
access. >> kathleen sebelius? >> under tremendously difficult circumstances over the last 4 1/2 years has done a great job in setting up the insurance market so that there is a good product for people to get. kathleen sebelius doesn't like code. she was not our it person. she would be the first to admit that if we had to do it all over again, there would have been a whole lot more questions asked in terms of how this thing is working. my priority right now is to get it fixed. ultimately -- >> she is still the right person? >> ultimately the buck stops with me. i'm the president and this is my team. if it's not working it's my job to get it fixed. >> a lot more and other issues throughout the hour. i have to sneak in a break, but they would allow plans that existed on the individual market as of this year to stay in effect through 2014. he responded to the president in the following statement. an apology is certainly an order, but what americans want to hear is that the president will keep his promise. the president is sincerely sorry he misled the american people, the least he can do is s
kathleen sebelius going before the senate finance committee today. last week she told members of the house she was sorry for the obama care website debacle. newly released documents show the site had even more problems than first reported. >>> the brother of the new jersey mall shooter says his family still does not know why he did it. kevin shoop says his brother richard didn't plan to hurt anyone but himself. a friend of the shooter said he sent him a message that said they needed to talk but he was already asleep and he did not respond. >>> new details in a mysterious plane crash last week. preliminary ntsb reports says the pilot, michael kallen filed a flight plan showing a short trip within canada. he did not talk to air traffic control at the nashville airport before he crashed. the wreckage was not spotted until some six hours after the crash. >>> two oklahoma inmates who escaped through a prison shower ceiling are back behind bars this morning. they were picked up at a home not far from the prison. they were part of a group of four inmates who made a clean getaway last month climbi
. >> we go back to capitol hill. no laughs there. kathleen sebelius once again was in the hot seat. max baucus who heads up the senate finance committee where she sat down at the witness table yesterday, remember he helped write the law. the last time she was there, he referred to the affordable care act implementation as a potential train wreck. he said he was unhappy with it. but bill nelson, the democrat from florida, summed it up when he was talking about the contractors responsible for the affordable care act website. he said, quote, i want you to burn their fingers and make them pay for not being responsible. she would not agree to that. >> john cornyn actually -- this is the most incredible thing today. he actually -- john cornyn -- gets in there and says i have a simple question. the people that will have all of our information, which we're assuming might be at risk, is there a background check on them. listen to this conversation. >> isn't it true that there is no federal requirement for navigators to undergo a criminal background check even though they will receive personal --
on capitol hill about the disastrous obamacare rollout, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius returns today for round 2. what can we expect to hear? joining us from the senate side, pennsylvania senator pat toomy, a member of the senate finance committee. he's going to be there this morning. good morning to you, senator. >> good morning, steve. >> i bet she's going to get an ear full because i know you guys in the senate have been getting an ear full from your constituents who suddenly have gotten those, hey, you've just been canceled notes in the mail. >> that is exactly right. of course, you know, how many times has the president promised people that if you like the coverage you have, you'll get to keep it? we always knew that was untrue. now, of course, it's coming home. and it's devastating to people. three and a half million so far have gotten these letters. because of obamacare, they lose their coverage. their plan no longer meets the satisfaction of the president and his administration. and here's what's devastating, steve. because of the incompetent rollout and the lac
or mislead about the fact that he said you could keep your health insurance if you like it? kathleen sebelius asked that very question and peel tell you what her answer was and talk about the repeated calls for her to step down. bill: are labor unions getting a pass on obamacare. martha: we'll ask a former pro football star way it's really like in the shocker rooms as the dolphins teammates speak out. >> i'm sure we have all gone out and had a few too many and called somebody and don't remember what we said on the voicemail or why we did it or what. it's just an unusual situation. you really love, what would you do?" ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you? ♪ when you think about it, isn't that what retirement should be, paying ourselves to do what we love? ♪ paying ourselves to do what we love? when you do what io, iyou think about risk.. i don't like the ups and downs of the market, but i can't just sit on m
to help the law and keep the law in place. remember this, now the president can fire kathleen sebelius as health secretary and put somebody in of highs choosing. now the president can do whatever he wants at the epa the president can do all kinds of things that republicans and moderate democrats. he can with executive authority do exactly whatever he wants. martha: you're so right, chris. this is a huge moment and big game-changer for all the reasons that you just detailed. h. really you try to sort of figure out what the discussion has been in the oval office and in the west wing. they know they're in a dire situation and they need to change the scheme but it does appear they will start a hold the ball and literally try to push it through the defensive line and make it go into the touchdown zone they're hoping. so talk to me a little bit about the possibility that you just brought up. are we about to see a change of some of the players in this game? >> well, one of the reasons, and you, we talked about it before, one of the reasons that everybody said that kathleen sebelius was safe a
the president if he had confidence in kathleen sebelius and the president had an answer, but he did not answer mr. tood's question. >> i think he said i think she would be the first to admit if we had to do it all over again she would be the first one to ask how things are working. >> he did not answer whether he has confidence for kathleen sebelius who has taken responsibility for the stinkin' website but with this particular catastrophe, with the computers -- >> if i thought my signature plan was rolling out, i wouldn't be golfing the sunday before. i would just sit there and go can we run through a test run here before i get on my polo shirt and go outside. >> the past isn't looking good for anybody, including the president. i >>heather: at this point for the benefit of those -- >> i hope for the benefit of those like bill elliott and those in danger of losing their policy something is done. still on the site as of this morning, i'm not sure if this was put on there again to say we are keeping it. this type we -- this time we are going to keep our promise. if you like your plan, you can kee
kathleen sebelius did. come on and say we are sorry and it's not where it needs to be. we are working around the clock and it will be up and running by november 30th. we are putting time into making sure it's viable. look for issa to get into the nitty greaty and say when did you know it wasn't working. was it an issue of contractors? you mentioned the officer for the white house. another interesting guy to look at is the it gentlemen named henry chow. he's not a political appointee. he served republicans and democrats. he will be someone who knows how this website was created through cms and that's the guy who delivers the most explosive testimony on the republican side. overall what this is today is really the gop plan for the rest of the year. as one leadership aide told me, this is the health care holiday season. they don't have anything else to do. the government is funded until january 15th. immigration is not going to happen. the farm bill is facing an uphill battle. this is where they will put their time and effort from now until christmas. you saw that strategy. drip, drip, d
been telling you. it may be worse. the news was so bad, kathleen sebelius didn't do it in front of cameras. she delivered the news over the phone. >> as of this first period, 106,000 americans have enrolled in qualified health plans through the market place. >> of course she avoided admitting of those 106,000 enrollees, just a quarter of them were done via the federal government's website. less than 27,000 enrollees. fewer than the number of folks at fenway park was sold out in the game. the state-run websites and california's exchange alone signed up nearly 10,000 more people. they believe there is condensation in the glass. the piece of positive spin is nearly a million potential applicants are in the pipeline. >> we can reasonably expect these numbers will grow substantially over the next five months as they did in massachusetts that enrolled only .3% or 123 people in the first month. >> still it's hard to look at yesterday's congressional hearing with the white house chief technology officer todd park feeling fully confident that a new deadline on a work website november 30t
.gov not functional. kathleen sebelius met with some of the so-called navigators in south florida, the website went down. >> this is a disaster. we have asked the american people to behave differently. when was the last time we asked the entire country to do something differently. now doing that it better be right and we clearly know it has not been. my concern is the war of anecdotes going forward. i can't get my old insurance. or i have cancer are so much more intense, than the positive anecdotes. so that's my big concern. the only shot the president has is and people won't be happy with it is what i call a five year narrative. two things will be happening. we'll lower the growth in health care costs which we're starting to see and more people will have insurance. but this is a five, ten year proposition. won't make people happy today. this at this point is only map. >> you can be right. the fundamental problem for him is what happens with democrats in the senate who are up for reelection. we might see in three or four years but that's not fast enough for democrats in the house or senate. the web
, senators got their chance to question health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. meanwhile, the president flew to texas where he called out the state's lawmakers for not taking full advantage of the affordable care act. >> one of the things that sometimes gets me a little trust rated although i understand it because i'm in politics is folks who are complaining about how the website's not working and why isn't obama fixing this and all of these people are uninsured and let, they're leaving a million people right now without health insurance that they could immediately fix. there's not a lot of logic. >> republican congressman from texas, michael burgess sits on the house energy and commerce committee. congressman, good to see you. >> good morning, craig. >> while they may not all live in your district, what do you say to the president's criticism that by not opting to expand medicaid, at least, not opting to expand medicaid 1 million people who could have insurance in texas, do not. >> let's get a couple of things out there first. medicaid will continue to exist in texas as
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of mental health, kathleen sebelius, the health and human services secretary, is expected to announce new guidelines that will require doctors and insurers to treat mental illness the same as physical illness, increasing access to care. we'll bring you her remarks life in a half hour as president obama takes responsibility for technical problems that plagued the healthcare.gov website but the president didn't stop there. he also responded to criticism of how he characterized the loss impact on those who already have insurance. athena jones is at the white house with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. any minute now the president will be departing the white house heading down to new orleans to talk about the economy. of course he's still dealing with the fallout over healthcare.gov and the word that millions of americans are getting cancellation letters from health insurance companies because of obama care. president obama is apologizing to americans losing their health insurance under the affordable care act despite his frequent promises they'd be able to keep plans the
people have a lot of thoughts, but i have some, too. kathleen sebelius made all kinds of promises, she's broken every one of them. she's become part of the fantasy land villains of disney world in some way. she can't get anything right. nancy pelosi said they're still looking through and trying to figure out what obamacare will be. but how about this guy, donald berwick? he's the former cms administrator. he was the guy that was speaking in favor of english, of british, of health care. he had written about the importance of rationing. he's not there anymore. now he's running for governor. he put us in the dumper big, big time. >> he wanted to be governor of what state? >> massachusetts, i think. >> perfect. >> be careful. not good. >> there is somebody we've seen on television tangling with megyn kelly a couple of nights. you suggest ezekiel emmanuel. >> he had a meltdown on megyn kelly and said that somehow it was a self-fulfilling prophecy and that fox was responsible for the web site not going up and the numbers not working out at all. >> how did we do that? >> how about dennis mcdo
he does and if kathleen sebelius has time to go to cocktail parties which she does, then todd park ought to have cometime to come to tell people he works for why they got such a poor product after spending half a billion dollars and three years. bill: do you expect that money to go higher? how much more do they need to spend to get it right? >> if they want the product to work they will have to spend. the first half a billion dollars didn't get the job done. to say it's a train wreck is an insult to train wrecks. it is doing very, very poorly. yes, it needs to be fixed. how much more money? who knows. that is one of the things hopefully someone will ask mr. park this week. bill: enrollment numbers are expected this week. i don't know if it is midweek or end of this week but what is your expectations when it comes to the enrollment numbers? >> well, bill, if the enrollment numbers were good we would already have them. you and i both know that they are going to be dismal. the last estimate i saw was 1100 a people a day. i was not good in math but at 313 million people in the country,
of enrolled is a big question, waiting a month and a half from the obama administration and kathleen sebelius, how do they define even rolled. they are defining people who have paid and people who put a plan into your shopping cart like you would do on amazon and maybe not pay for it. bill: what happens to the law if these numbers stay where they are? what's the effect of that? >> we heard healthcare experts and people who helped write the saw say if a number of people don't sign up insurance premiums will be high within obamacare which means even more people won't show up. you have lots of republicans and conservatives who have been sake it's not going to work. you have democrats meeting with the president very concerned about reelection. then you have them saying maybe if we had known the website was going to crash we would have delayed it. we'll see a collapse in the marketplace in obamacare. it will be at a standstill and you are seeing the experts over at health and human services saying i don't know if the website will be fixed by the end of november. bill: do they keep on throwing mone
? @martha maccam up and@bill hemmer. martha: he grilled kathleen sebelius on the holes he saw in terms of putting in your information and he seems to be right. >> when the experts come on in front of that committee and say get down. better to start over. martha: shocking information that a crucial jobs report was manipulated to make president obama look good just before the election. the unemployment rate went from 8.1 to 7.8. it was a huge boost at the time for the president because it looked like the jobs market was starting to turn around. some people believed it did in the ensuing month. it became a major talking point throughout the 30 days of the campaign. >> this morning we found out the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. after losing 800,000 jobs a month when i took office. our businesses added 5.2 million new jobs the past two years. friday we found out the unemployment rate has fallen from 8.2% to 7.8%, the lowest since i took office. we created jobs and we are making progress. march report census bureau asked the inspector general to look i
secretary kathleen sebelius when the website crashed right in front of you. >> i think it's great this is happening. it's okay, it will come back. you know, that happens every day. martha: okay, that's okay. it will come back. this happens every day. she was visiting a miami hospital. they should have gone that was not going to work out the way they want it to. in tennessee remember this moment, somebody handle were a website for dummies book. some people thought that was rude. she wasn't too happy about it. it's easy to walk into these situations the way it's work. i'm not sure of the's such a great p.r. moment. martha: don't worry, it will come back. bill: massive flooding slamming a major city. have a look right here. some chilling new video of a man trying to save his car from being washed away. we'll show you what happen to him and others in a moment. martha: there is a brand-new deal that can keep our troops in afghanistan for another 10 years. ralph peters is here on that. bill: new developments where a teenaged girl is charged with bullying another girl to death. it could
are -- >> they stink! >> and kathleen sebelius said the numbers are not reliable, et cetera. i think you're going to get to a point where six the first day is going to just be the tip of the iceberg because by the i'm you get to november 15, they can't be that substantial, otherwise we would have heard them already. >> you're probably right. i think it was in the "washington post" over the weekend where they had this story, they rolled out the story that said essentially behind the scenes for a long time, the president's advisors were saying, okay. should we just say if you like your plan, you can keep your plan or should we add some caveats? it sounds like the political people won the day. let's keep it simple. but now they're going, yeah, we talked about it. we decided just say that. it doesn't affect that many people. >> yeah. this is why this story is probably -- has a lot of legs beyond a few days, even a couple of weeks. obviously it affects so many people, but we're getting these drips of information out from internal memos and internal discussions. and that's one of them. today learning t
health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius claims is now improving daily. >> first of all, i'd say, it is running right now, every day people are coming through, every day people are getting enrolled. >> reporter: mark your calendars for november 30th. the white house says it will be working for, quote, the vast majority of users by the end of the month. >> it is our conviction that we can, with the fixes being implemented reach that goal by november 30th. >> reporter: the administration is under pressure to work fast. a bill by mary landrieu would allow americans to keep their insurance plans, an idea they worry could undermine the whole program. >> does anybody have any idea how much all this is going to cost us in the end? we've spent $600 million already. >> reporter: white house top officials including chief of staff dennis mcdonough are expected to head up to capitol hill to talk to senate democrats about some of these proposals that would allow americans to keep their insurance plan if they like it. i had a chance to catch up with mcdonough in the driveway of the white
. obviously the blame starts at the top with the president and kathleen sebelius. this looks like a systemic breakdown. looks like you just can't point at the people at the very top. there's a lot of people up and down the food chain that failed miserably on this. >> it is systemic. it goes to the heart of the democratic party argument an argument that the government can do a lot of good things really well. if we can't get this right it under mines that entire argument. >> an argument you've said very publicly, in this case you support it. >> do i. >> you want this for personal reasons, not for professional reasons, you want this to work for personal reasons and there are millions of people like that, which makes this all the more, all the more just unbelievable to people who believe that the government can do big things and do it well. >> it's not just a personal thing. i have two older daughters who have been able to take advantage of obama care. but i think any american, whether you're a small government conservative or big government liberal or like most of america you just want governm
for obamacare still being built. >> yeah. >> apparently it's not complete. >> for some reason, kathleen sebelius and the president of the united states made their second deadline by november 30th. the second they said that, i thought, wait. the guy you brought in to fix it says it's worse than we thought! why would you pick out an arbitrary date right after thanksgiving and say, that's when it will be fixed? now nobody thinks that date is going to mean anything. >> it would be optimal. >> right. >> i remember them saying optimal function by the end of november. >> and keep in mind, you got to be signed up by the end of the year. so they figured, we should give people at least a one month opportunity. but now kathleen sebelius says the end of this month, not a deadline. quote, the 30th of november is not a magic go, no-go date. it is a work of constant improvement. what's interesting is she was down in florida yesterday. she was speaking at florida tech college in orlando and it's kind of sad because there she was talking about how it's working. we've had a few problems. she's walking amongst som
this hour, hate it when that happens, kathleen sebelius caught on camera as the obama care website crashes right in front of her. while the optics are bad, the numbers may be good. are more people finally signing up. >> also new, the apology debate. was the u.s. asked to apologize to the afghan people in order to finalize a new security agreement with the country? we get the answers from the administration. >>> charges dropped. the two teen girls accused of bullying a girl to death will not face charges. the sheriff who arrested them is now under fire. he joins us live. >>> your "new day" starts right now. >> announcer: what you need to know -- >> unlike lehman brothers, the relationship is too big to fail. >> announcer: what you just have to see. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> welcome to "new day." it's thursday, november 21st, 7:00 in the east. here's what happened while you were sleeping. a massive boeing cargo jet somehow landed at the wrong airport in wichita, kansas. now it's stuck. why? the runway there simply too short for the dream lifter
to throw somebody under the about us? is it the kathleen sebelius? someone does have to be blamed for the president. the president says the buck stops with me. it's on me. are people fatigued of hearing that? do they want to see the president say this person is to blame and it's not just the buck stops here? >> i'm not sure they want to fire somebody, but they sure as heck want the government in better hands. and they want some serious adults who are in charge of things who are accountable that they can looking to with some sense of okay, we're in a much better place. let me go back to the reagan example. you know, he brought in a whole new team after iran-contra. he brought in howard baker as his chief of staff, ken duberstein as a deputy. brought in colin powell to be his national security advisor. he brought in a new lawyer who was we respected. in that case, the president understood -- it's not a question of firing people. it is a question of showing that the government, you can trust the government. he's got a fresh team. i think this president needs to bring in a couple of p
secure. they call into question testimony that health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius gave back in april. >> back on april 18th, secretary sebelius testified in this room we have the federal hub on track and on time. i can tell you we are on track. those are her words. we now know that the secretary's testimony did not match what was happening behind the scenes. >> reporter: some democrats have complained all the emphasis on security may scare americans away from signing up for health care, jenna. jenna: mike, what more have we learned about what was known about the website issues? >> reporter: we know that an outside consulting firm was brought in the spring to look at development of the website. raised red flags about the lack of there being central authority figure that has the power to say yes and no to key components and developments. there is no clear vision in terms of the development of the website. we've also learned that sebelius, medicare official marilyn tavenner and white house chief technology officer todd park were briefed on the report early april and two we
explains. >> reporter: just as health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius was touring an obama care signup center in florida this week and chatting with volunteers about healthcare.gov the website crashed. >> reporter: the screen says sorry your system is temporarily down. >> that's okay, it will come back. that happens every day. >> reporter: as it turns out the struggling website is exactly the scenario administration officials quietly feared, as more e-mails released by house republicans reveal top hhs official henry chao the white house worried the site was not ready one week before its october first launch referring to chief technology officer todd park chao wrote one of the things todd conveyed was this fear that the white house has about this healthcare.gov site being up available." >> people are experiencing some level of difficulty with moving from stage to stay in the online application that has been reduced and proveimproved. >> reporter: more than 133,000 people signed up for obama care on the state health exchanges and the white house released an economic report th
was? henry chiou was asked, by the way, how many times did you meet with kathleen sebelius? not often. >> periodically. when was the last time? >> during the shut down. >> so you didn't meet with her during the debauchle of the rollout? here there is no brain trust ge? we also found out that this cost $600 million, which is an incredible number, and yet it doesn't work. >> it doesn't. and the fact that one month in, so few people have signed up, it's only 2% of the 7 million target that they were aiming for. what's interesting -- elisabeth, you were absolutely right. there is some kind of legalese used there, not surprisingly, where it was only people who selected a plan. in other words, went through the process and then you selected a plan. you didn't necessarily have to have paid for it yet, which means they might not actually wind up on the rolls. but meanwhile, ezekiel manuel, the brother of rahm emanuel, is one of the architects of this affordable care act. he was on with megyn kelly last night and he made it very clear, she tried to make it clear using his own words and testimon
to stand strongly by kathleen sebelius, are they going to demand someone else loses their job? because it does appear when we lose the vote on friday, democrats are worried, 39 democrats voted with house republicans on their if you like it, you can keep it plan. >> that came after the president offered his fix. >> and after the president threatened to veto this. >> that is a significant defection because they are concerned about the politics of this. if the white house can fix the website, they go a long way towards healing the divisions caused in the weak of this fiasco. but the fault loins are drawn, democrats are deeply nervous. the white house needs to follow through. you can't have a law and have it be oconsistently screwed up in the rollout. so this is serious times. they better have their a team on this fixing this right now. >> i have to ask you another story, another political story the cheney family. there are disputes in every family t. fact that this has become a public dispute 2009 liz cheney running for a senate seat and her sister over same-sex marriage, it is astonishin
's an interesting fact -- >> real quick, robert. >> here's an interesting fact. kathleen sebelius is the past president of the national association of insurance commissioners. she doesn't know better? >> i guess not. >> maybe she does. >> robert, we need another hour. thanks so much. straight ahead. this story had many of you fired up yesterday. a school district says students cannot say the pledge because there is not enough time in the name. veterans are fed up, firing back and speaking up only on our show. heart healthy, huh?! ugh! actually progresso's soup has pretty bold flavor. i love bold flavors! i'd love it if you'd open the chute! [ male announcer ] progresso. surprisingly bold flavor for a heart healthy soup. [ ding ] i sense you've overpacked, your stomach. try pepto to-go. it's pepto-bismol that fits in your pocket. relief can be yours, but your peanuts... are mine. ♪ >>> we've got an update on a story we told you about yesterday. a group of veterans fighting to get high school students in sioux falls, south dakota, to recite the pledge on a daily basis in high school may be on
was convicted of a crime. they went after him. >> we heard on capitol hill where kathleen sebelius said we might have felons working as navigators because we didn't do background checks. >> workers used to have fingerprints and background checked conducted on them. none of these navigators have had that. last night on o'reilly the guest had a video showing people applying for obamacare how to lie, cheat and steal in order to lower their premiums and get more subsidies. >> if you'd like to read more about this -- >> nationalreview.com. >> thank you very much. straight ahead, the president insisting he'll fix obamacare, but does he even have the power to delay or change the law? judge napolitano is here to weigh in next. good morning, judge. we're going to weigh you. ♪ ♪ pain. once you feel it coming, it's almost too late. or is it? introducing new fast acting advi. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing ail ion core™ technology, nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired.
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